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EducOOo International Creation (November 2010)
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Attendees
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(alphabetic order)
- Eric Bachard aka ericb2 on irc
- Ben Bois aka _wooz
- Olav Dahlum aka olorin_
- Sylvain DENIS aka sylvaintechnic on irc
- Jean-Marie LAFON aka gnome06 on irc
- (please confirm) Marina Latini aka deneb_alpha on irc
- (please add your name )
Agenda
- make a quick point about the EducOOo Internationalization status
- propose an agenda for the next meeting
- misc : forward educoo.it to Italian people, EducOOo Council (publish the people)
Log
[21:01] <ericb2> Meeting time ?
[21:01] <wooz_> now!
[21:01] <wooz_> normally
[21:02] <sylvaintechnic> it's time
[21:02] <ericb2> Ok, let's start
[21:02] <ericb2> Agenda :
[21:02] <ericb2> * make a quick point about the EducOOo Internationalization status
[21:02] <ericb2> * propose an agenda for the next meeting
[21:02] <ericb2> * misc : forward educoo.it to Italian people, EducOOo Council (publish the people)
[21:03] <olorin_> :-)
[21:03] * JZA (~jza@189.221.142.175.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) has joined #ooo4Kids
[21:03] * ChanServ gives channel operator status to JZA
[21:03] <olorin_> Well, http://educoo.no/wordpress/
[21:03] <wooz_> olorin_: nice!
[21:04] <ericb2> First item is a quick / fast point about the internationalization process
[21:04] <ericb2> olorin_: hey, nice :)
[21:05] <wooz_> olorin_: you can get the ban of blog.educoo.org
[21:05] <gnome06> great
[21:05] <olorin_> wooz_: :-)
[21:05] <ericb2> One word about educoo.it. The good news first : the process to forward the ownership to Marina is started. The bad news is we'll have to pay yet 14 euros
[21:05] <sylvaintechnic> why?
[21:05] <ericb2> maybe add taxes
[21:05] <wooz_> ericb2: hmm
[21:06] <ericb2> sylvaintechnic: because the online forward is not implemented by Gandi, and we must do that with papers, manualy
[21:06] <olorin_> Err.
[21:06] <sylvaintechnic> ericb2: ah ok
[21:06] * ericb2 received the form some days ago, but I need to discuss with Marina
[21:07] <olorin_> wooz_: I have yet to explore WordPress a bit further, but it's pretty straightforward to use.
[21:07] <ericb2> Any news from educoo.us ?
[21:07] <wooz_> olorin_: ok no pb
[21:08] <wooz_> ericb2: nope
[21:08] <wooz_> ericb2: nothing
[21:08] <ericb2> For the record, the log of the meeting will be available here : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php /Current_events/LogEducOOoInternationalCreation02December2010#Log
[21:08] <ericb2> wooz_: :-/
[21:08] <ericb2> wooz_: maybe time to ping Drew
[21:08] <wooz_> ericb2: yep.. I did the backup system by myself
[21:08] <ericb2> JZA: some news form educoo.es ?
[21:09] <ericb2> wooz_: ok, good news :)
[21:09] <olorin_> wooz_: Is that a hacked theme btw, or just the header uploaded from the interface? When I tried that here, it was overlayed.
[21:09] <JZA> yeah we have the site up, and we are working on it
[21:09] <olorin_> JZA: Good.
[21:09] <wooz_> olorin_: a bit of hack ;-)
[21:09] <JZA> ericb2: we are still working on it. There is also a good chance we can start a project in venezuela.
[21:09] <olorin_> wooz_: Hehe
[21:10] <sylvaintechnic> good news ;)
[21:10] <JZA> ericb2: currently we are in talks with the CNCI to evaluate for their Canaimas strategy.
[21:10] <ericb2> JZA: awesome :)
[21:10] <JZA> ericb2: Canaimas is the state distro for all the K12 schools in venezuela
[21:10] <wooz_> JZA: excellent
[21:10] <gnome06> good news
[21:10] <olorin_> Do we have more people in South America?
[21:11] <JZA> olorin_: yes in educoo.es we have people in Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Colombia
[21:11] <JZA> levarcol was supposed to join in anytime now
[21:11] <olorin_> JZA: And you a bit further in middle with Mexico?
[21:11] <JZA> he is from Medellin, Colombia
[21:11] <JZA> olorin_: yes I live in Cancun at the moment
[21:12] <olorin_> JZA: Pretty well covered in the Americas I would say.
[21:12] <wooz_> +1
[21:13] <olorin_> I have a harder time here in Scandinavia.
[21:13] <ericb2> olorin_: what happens ?
[21:13] <JZA> olorin_: well we just live in many countries, but we don't have any project outside of venezuela yet.
[21:13] <wooz_> olorin_: snow?
[21:13] <olorin_> ericb2: Extreme lobbyism it seems.
[21:14] <JZA> olorin_: we are still coming back to the table with Valencia in Spain with ooo4kids
[21:14] <olorin_> wooz_: And ice, but not quite that.
[21:14] <ericb2> olorin_: lobbyism for what ? MS Office ? or something else ?
[21:14] <wooz_> olorin_: k
[21:14] <ericb2> JZA: as I told you : I can provide you a build
[21:14] <olorin_> ericb2: Mainly OOo, which is a bit strange...
[21:15] <ericb2> olorin_: ah. I'm not surprised in fact
[21:15] <JZA> ericb2: one thing that I am still not sure, is the extensions status in OOo4Kids, since we want to pitch if ooo4kids is 'extendable'
[21:16] <JZA> ericb2: python?
[21:16] <ericb2> JZA: untested, but should work, excepted on windows, because there is some issue I never traced yet
[21:16] <olorin_> ericb2: Me either, but working against the person that keeps it up and running? Makes no sense to me.
[21:17] <ericb2> olorin_: is it OOo or LO ?
[21:19] <olorin_> ericb2: Hmm, well, people supporting both? I really think it's more about me than anything else.
[21:19] <olorin_> The funny thing is, I _am_ the supporter.
[21:20] <ericb2> olorin_: I'm a bit confused with this strange story, but if you encounter problems, you can use educoo.no for your needs
[21:21] <ericb2> Other information for the first item ?
[21:21] <sylvaintechnic> no
[21:21] <olorin_> ericb2: Hehe, yeah, me too. Anyway, it boils down to that we probably should collaborate here in the north. So anyone living near Norway, please.
[21:22] <ericb2> I forgot : I asked wooz_ to create wiki.educoo.org
[21:22] <wooz_> ericb2: and it'll be avaible tomorrow normally
[21:22] <ericb2> the need is to stop concentrating everything - our forces - in the software, but keep in mind our mission
[21:22] <ericb2> wooz_: thank you very much ! (one more time ! )
[21:23] <wooz_> ;-)
[21:23] <ericb2> JZA: I think we could collaborate with the Campus Libre and the Forge too
[21:23] <ericb2> wooz_: you really do a nice and extremely usefull work
[21:24] <olorin_> ericb2: I won't whine too much, as things probably will improve.
[21:24] <ericb2> kaze: awake ?
[21:24] <wooz_> ericb2: maybe the home of the wiki.educoo.org can replace the current educoo.org page
[21:24] <ericb2> wooz_: not exactly, but the idea is to create something alive
[21:25] <wooz_> ericb2: ok
[21:25] <ericb2> wooz_: more activity, and in several locales. Last but not least, easy to contribute
[21:26] <olorin_> educoo.org should be kept as a selling point, the wiki however, a knowledge database.
[21:26] <wooz_> ericb2: I see
[21:26] <sylvaintechnic> +1 olorin_
[21:26] <ericb2> wooz_: I think ost of the new ideas will come from the wiki
[21:26] <ericb2> s/ost/most/
[21:27] <wooz_> ericb2: ok
[21:27] <olorin_> Yep. I don't think that clutter will make a good main web site.
[21:28] <ericb2> olorin_: usualy, static information is on the web page, and alive (young, and experimental) on the wiki
[21:28] <ericb2> with WP seems to be quite nice
[21:28] <olorin_> ericb2: Exactly.
[21:29] <ericb2> Next item ?
[21:29] <olorin_> Yep, seems to be nice.
[21:29] <olorin_> Ok.
[21:29] <wooz_> ericb2: +1
[21:31] <ericb2> Next item is fast : propose an agenda for the next meeting.
[21:31] <ericb2> I'd add: supposed to be next week ...
[21:32] <ericb2> Any suggestion ?
[21:32] <olorin_> Well, get the rest of the sites up and running.
[21:32] <sylvaintechnic> thursday it's a good day for me
[21:32] <olorin_> wooz_: Some content in the wiki?
[21:33] <olorin_> olorin_: Do something about the support in this country.
[21:33] <wooz_> olorin_: I can't do all.. I'll manage the setting up
[21:33] <gnome06> too much IRC meeting for me for next week :)
[21:33] * ericb2 would like to make a point about educoo.us, and I'll contact Drew
[21:33] <gnome06> i prefer wednesday
[21:33] <olorin_> wooz_: MediaWiki?
[21:33] <wooz_> olorin_: yep
[21:33] <ericb2> gnome06: wednesday is terrible for me
[21:34] <ericb2> gnome06: if we can make it around 21h30, that's ok. Else, it's difficult for me
[21:34] <olorin_> Doesn't matter much to me.
[21:34] <gnome06> so thursday
[21:35] <wooz_> ericb2: too late for me.. my wake up is really early on the morning :-/
[21:35] <olorin_> wooz_: Just create the framework, and most of us should be ok.
[21:35] <wooz_> olorin_: +1
[21:35] <ericb2> +1 for me too (was the idea anyway)
[21:36] <olorin_> wooz_: How early?
[21:36] <wooz_> between 5h30 & 5h45
[21:36] <olorin_> ericb2: Oh yeah, educoo.de?
[21:36] <wooz_> 'cause the snow :-p
[21:36] <olorin_> wooz_: Whoa!
[21:37] <wooz_> olorin_: yep
[21:37] <ericb2> olorin_: no news. Maybe thorsten can help
[21:37] <olorin_> wooz_: I was in the capital by then back in '96/97.
[21:37] <wooz_> the blog is up (educoo.de) but no content at the moment
[21:38] <olorin_> Just the standard template.
[21:38] <wooz_> olorin_: ?
[21:38] <wooz_> olorin_: yep
[21:38] <olorin_> wooz_: I was up 03:45 and at work by 6:30.
[21:38] <wooz_> olorin_: ouch!
[21:38] <wooz_> :-p
[21:39] <ericb2> For the next meeting, can we agree :
[21:39] <ericb2> - International : new point (educoo.us, educoo.de, other locales, and everything around i10n)
[21:39] <ericb2> - Present : http://wiki.educoo.org (ideas, objectives ...)
[21:39] <wooz_> olorin_: for me.. it's because I bring the children to the nursery..
[21:39] <olorin_> wooz_: Ah.
[21:39] <ericb2> I'll add : Debian port
[21:39] <wooz_> ericb2: +1
[21:39] <sylvaintechnic> ericb2: +1
[21:40] <ericb2> + a point with schools
[21:40] * ericb2 promises to not exceed 10 min per item ^^
[21:40] <sylvaintechnic> ok
[21:40] <wooz_> ^^
[21:40] <olorin_> There's one thing I want have worked out by then. Goodies of some sort.
[21:40] <ericb2> olorin_: extremely good idea !
[21:40] <wooz_> olorin_: +1
[21:41] <sylvaintechnic> olorin_: +1
[21:41] * ericb2 adds goodies
[21:41] <gnome06> +1
[21:41] <ericb2> goodies means: everything about goodies, including brillant ideas we'll have soon ^^
[21:41] <olorin_> You know, a web address with a logo works great as most people will actually check it out.
[21:43] <olorin_> ericb2: Nothing expensive, just to profile ourselves among people.
[21:44] <ericb2> olorin_: we do the same here. The last produc is a DVD, named "FramaDVD Ecole" (means school), we'll sale for around 4 euros. This DVD contains everything free software at school
[21:44] <ericb2> olorin_: I had the idea to propose an international version of this DVD
[21:45] <olorin_> ericb2: Yeah, that would be a good idea.
[21:45] <wooz_> +1 but maybe in a usb key ?
[21:46] <ericb2> wooz_: could be, but we need to find some money for that
[21:46] <JZA> wooz_: btw we are clonning the educoo.org site and then localizing it, we plan to put our own content in the future, but please be patient :)
[21:46] <ericb2> olorin_: I'll prepare something around the FramaDVD next week
[21:46] <wooz_> yep
[21:47] <JZA> I want to know if there are any other efforts to make OOo4Kids videos.
[21:47] <JZA> or promotional ideas.
[21:47] <olorin_> wooz_: Cheap ones can be obtained from China.
[21:47] <gnome06> jza : any ideas ?
[21:48] <olorin_> gnome06: The video, you know a high resolution for showing off on monitors?
[21:49] <gnome06> olorin_: last videos are in HD
[21:49] <JZA> gnome06: there is a mozilla video about promoting firefox around the world
[21:49] <JZA> gnome06: I wonder if we could have something similar
[21:49] <olorin_> I could have a stand some months back, but no viable material at the time.
[21:49] <olorin_> gnome06: Oh ok.
[21:49] <ericb2> JZA: Mozilla is rich and does not help us :)
[21:49] <gnome06> sure, we need a scenario and time
[21:49] <JZA> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=475311897866&set=a.473355112866.264973.623242866#!/video /video.php?v=475862087866
[21:50] <JZA> this is 100% human based, not really any screenshot or views of the app
[21:50] <wooz_> maybe we can ask for children around the world !?
[21:50] <olorin_> wooz_: Cheap labour!
[21:51] <gnome06> wooz_: still same problems --> legal, time, money
[21:51] <JZA> :D
[21:51] <JZA> maybe we can have like an ad-hoc project
[21:51] <JZA> of clips
[21:51] <wooz_> gnome06: only legal is a pb...
[21:51] <JZA> start collecting clips
[21:51] <wooz_> maybe without the face.. just the voice
[21:51] <JZA> wooz_: legal? of which country?
[21:51] <olorin_> Actually, I did play with http://www.unhcr.org/
[21:52] <wooz_> and some animation for the visual
[21:52] <JZA> wooz_: there is no one world law fortunately
[21:52] <ericb2> To summarize, can we agree about the next meeting : thursday 9 december, 20h00 UTC (21h00 CET, Paris)
- ooo4kids IRC channel
[21:52] <JZA> and is not ilegal to shoot children
[21:52] <wooz_> ericb2: +1
[21:52] <gnome06> checked : my videos are 1280x720px
[21:52] <olorin_> JZA: Well, it is here!
[21:52] <JZA> ericb2: I propose to drop CET and use UTC instead
[21:52] <gnome06> ericb2: +1
[21:53] <sylvaintechnic> ericb2: Ok
[21:53] <olorin_> UTC+1
[21:53] * ericb2 noticed : UTC+1
[21:54] <JZA> great
[21:54] <ericb2> Last item is : misc
[21:54] <wooz_> heyhey :-)
[21:54] <olorin_> wooz_: What, what?
[21:54] * gnome06 please quick eric, i have to go
[21:54] <wooz_> no no agree with UTC
[21:54] <olorin_> :-)
[21:54] <ericb2> I just wanted to say, we are close to realize the Debian port. I tested today, and just rebuild is imho mandatory :)
[21:55] <wooz_> ericb2: YES!
[21:55] <wooz_> :-)
[21:55] <ericb2> thanks to Mathias Brunet, alias kaze who worked hard to achieve that port
[21:56] <gnome06> thks Mathias
[21:56] <olorin_> If you do that, I can probably get it into Debian Edu/Skolelinux.
[21:56] <wooz_> +1 thx kaze
[21:56] <ericb2> olorin_: would be great : this is just one .deb + the languagepack
[21:57] <ericb2> olorin_: works well with synaptic, and co
[21:57] <ericb2> Other questions ?
[21:57] <wooz_> yes great improvement
[21:58] <wooz_> ok for me
[21:58] <gnome06> ok for me
[21:58] * ericb2 willlike to thanks Coolgeek too, since he helped a lot Mathias
[21:58] * ericb2 would like to thanks Coolgeek too, since he helped a lot Mathias
[21:58] <olorin_> Hehe
[21:58] <wooz_> right..thx coolgeek
[21:58] <ericb2> If no other question -> meeting. Thanks for coming
[21:58] <olorin_> Would you like me to fix that sentence?
[21:58] <gnome06> ok ok, tks Coolgeek also :D
[21:59] <wooz_> thx ericb2 and all
[21:59] <wooz_> :-)
[21:59] <sylvaintechnic> thanks at all
[21:59] <gnome06> tks Eric and all
[21:59] <wooz_> bye all
[21:59] <gnome06> bye
[21:59] <olorin_> Don't forget the agenda.
[21:59] <wooz_> & gn
[21:59] * ericb2 will prepare the agenda now
